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Amanda
Super June 2019 Ontario

Planning a same sex wedding

Amanda, on November 21, 2018 at 16:15 Posted in Plan a wedding 0 33
Here's one -
I started the search for an officiant and reached out to a few people. I've felt obligated in a way to be upfront with all my vendors so far about this being a same sex wedding, I think I've done it for my own comfort. I don't want someone's surprise or withdraw to offend me so I thought I would just throw it out there right away.

So an officiant contacted me saying there was availability on my date and I responded with the package we wanted and there being 2 bride's since all the text read "husband and wife"... the response email said they have no available officiant to marry us due to lack of credentials and referred me to someone else. Now I appreciate the referral however I don't appreciate being lied to. Same sex marriage is legal. you do not need different "credentials" to perform a ceremony to 2 brides or 2 grooms. Also as a business, you never really should be lying to anyone, just be upfront, or quite honestly I would have swallowed a complete lack of response better than the one I did get. I've been back and forth about leaving a review but I don't know if I'm being too sensitive.
Thoughts?

33 Comments

Latest activity by Kimberly, on July 1, 2021 at 03:43
  • Amanda
    Super June 2019 Ontario
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    Thank you!! I ended up doing the same - googling LGBT officiants and found one.
    So far that was the only negative experience and hopefully the last.
    Good luck to you too!!
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  • Amanda
    Super June 2019 Ontario
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    Thank you.
    someone from wedding wire already reached out to me about that.. just wouldn't want someone else having the same experience.
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  • Erin
    Super September 2019 Ontario
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    I'm so sorry you're having to deal with this! I wonder if there's a way you can report them, since they're clearly homophobic... Good luck in your search!
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  • Katrin
    Frequent user September 2019 Ontario
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    Ugh, I feel for you. I am in the same situation. I've been able to find a woman through searching for LGBT officiants on google, and found a woman who does it and states on her website that she is LGBT-friendly. She is independant, maybe try finding someone like that?

    I've been doing the same thing, being upfront about having two brides. So far I've had 0 negative experiences, but we are making sure their website has photos of LGBT couples beforehand. It's more work than we thought. Good luck.

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  • Allison
    Master October 2019 Ontario
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    I'm sorry you are going through this! The lying is completely unprofessional, you don't need different credentials to marry 2 brides or 2 grooms!! Smiley ups It sounds like you have something else figured out, which is awesome!

    It's 2018, same-sex marriage has been legal in Canada for a long time now, and yet some people are still uncomfortable about it, I don't get it. Planning a wedding is stressful enough, you don't need the added stress of "is this vendor LGBTQ+ friendly?!" on top of it.

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  • Amanda
    Super June 2019 Ontario
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    They do, I sent it.

    Thanks.

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  • Joey
    WeddingWire Admin May 2015 Maryland
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    I'm really sad to hear that. Can you please PM me the name of the officiant/company if they have a WeddingWire listing?

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  • Amanda
    Super June 2019 Ontario
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    Thank you so much to everyone who responded.

    I am so full and overwhelmed by all of the support, honestly.

    I appreciate your referrals, suggestions and kind words. It honestly has made me feel better.

    Thank you again !

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  • Amanda
    Super June 2019 Ontario
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    Thank you.. and good idea. I might question them on it a little before I do anything else. Whoever emailed me was very nice, there was no disrespect on either end, it was the lie that upset me. If it makes you uncomfortable, fine. that is your right. I am not going to lose sleep over it... but be honest.

    Thank you for the idea. We found a couple great officiants so we will be fine, and obviously wouldn't want this company being a part of our day anyways !

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  • Amanda
    Super June 2019 Ontario
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    That was how I felt. I would want to know as a potentional client as well. It's such poor business.

    I didn't even think of that.

    Thank you !


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  • Amie
    Devoted August 2019 British Columbia
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    I can imagine. Nobody should have to feel that way. I truly hope you don’t have to experience that again with ANY vendor or at anytime in your life.

    All the best 🙂
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  • Amanda
    Super June 2019 Ontario
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    Thank you..

    Honestly, the support I have received on this post is overwhelming.

    That is exactly how I felt.. I don't lose sleep over people not supporting anything in my life, especially strangers. I am not sad that someone doesn't want to be a part of my life choice, I was disappointed about being lied to and you are right, I would have respected the honesty.

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  • Amanda
    Super June 2019 Ontario
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    I've been in touch with several. We have two that we are deciding between now too so there is no issue there. Just disappointing.


    Thank you

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  • Amanda
    Super June 2019 Ontario
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    That was how I felt too.. Leaving reviews is basically a service for other potential customers. Thank you.

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  • Amanda
    Super June 2019 Ontario
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    Thank you.. It's true, some people have even mentioned they think it's actually illegal to decline a same sex wedding.. but whatever.

    Obviously they aren't the people we want anyways.

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  • Amanda
    Super June 2019 Ontario
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    I found them too !!

    Thank you so so much for that.

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  • Amanda
    Super June 2019 Ontario
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    Thanks for the different perspective. I also think it is unlikely, but you are right.. ya never know.

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  • Amanda
    Super June 2019 Ontario
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    That was what my fiance said too!! It's 2018 people ! I can't change how people feel about things, and I won't lose sleep over it, it was just the lie about credentials that upset me.

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  • Amanda
    Super June 2019 Ontario
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    Thank you.. We found a couple others we are trying to decide between.

    But thank you again

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  • Amanda
    Super June 2019 Ontario
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    Thank you so much..
    I've been in touch with a couple other great officiants so we will be just fine, it was just a little off-putting.

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  • Amie
    Devoted August 2019 British Columbia
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    First off, I am truly sorry you went through that. Nobody should have to feel like that. I do think it’s smart for you to be up front about the same-sex wedding although I don’t think you HAVE to. But it’s a smart move.

    I hope the referral works out for you and I’m sorry again you were lied to. I hate closed-minded individuals.
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  • Rekramer
    Expert November 2018 Ontario
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    Oh also our officiant works out of st. catharines and he is excellent and i know he does same sex weddings, if you're interested.

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  • Rekramer
    Expert November 2018 Ontario
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    That's terrible and you shouldn't have to deal with people like that. 100% you are not being too sensitive, that is very negative behavior from an officiant. you are right that there is no difference in credentials required. Tori is also right that there may be another issue, perhaps make it clear that they should have communicated any issue to you earlier, rather than giving you information that suggested they were available and then taking it back the way they did.

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  • Tori
    Top October 2019 Manitoba
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    Not too sensitive at all. I would leave a review, but give them the benefit of the doubt and maybe consider it was like how hotels sometimes double book rooms? I know that it is unlikely but I would put that in the review just so that people that read it don't think that and wonder why you may have "jumped to conclusions". Either way what they did was bad and in the wrong.

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  • K
    Expert June 2019 Ontario
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    I don't think you're being too sensitive at all... if it were me I'd leave a review. To be honest I can't believe stuff like this still happens. It's sad.

    There have been a couple suggestions to try a United church minister which is a great idea but I also wanted to throw out looking into a humanist officiant.
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  • Vinod
    Top August 2017 Ontario
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    Https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://gayweddingsontario.ca/&ved=2ahUKEwjAkpX9g-feAhWPq1kKHfJxDh8QFjAAegQIBxAB&usg=AOvVaw0CesDodpcYn-8S6T5CU-E0&cshid=1542856428714

    Here is a website i came across and feel free to give your information for a quote.
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  • Vinod
    Top August 2017 Ontario
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    Its terrible to hear about the officiant leaving you high and dry about this whole situation with your wife to be.

    There are legal service for our weddings. I will help you out by letting you know a site to go to for legal officiants.
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  • Hélène
    Devoted September 2019 Alberta
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    Ugh! Why is this even a thing anymore?? Love is love and if an officiant isn't comfortable performing a same-sex marriage, THAT should be advertised...not the fact that they do!


    If you're having a difficult time finding someone, and happen to be near a Unitarian church, their chaplains will perform ceremonies for anyone who is in love and wants to get married. It's as religious as your want - or not at all. They'll work with you to make it meaningful for you.

    I'm sorry you have to go through this...it really infuriates me! I hope you find someone who vibes with you!

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  • Alissa
    Frequent user September 2020 British Columbia
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    What a horrible experience, im so sorry.
    I can understand how questioning or complaining could feel pointless, especially since you really dont want anyone from this company officiating your wedding anyways!
    But personally, I would definitely dig a little deeper as to what their problem is, and threaten to bring the issue to the attention of the media. They really need to know that this is not acceptable. (Both the lying and the descrimination. shame!!)
    I dont know if you already have a ceremony venue, (or if you are religious in any way), but we opted to go with a united church/minister. They are open and accepting to performing all loving ceremonies and gave us full freedom to design our ceremony style. Perhaps a minister from an local united church would be able to do an offsite ceremony? Just a suggestion!
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  • Dar
    Frequent user December 2018
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    So sorry to hear about this response. I agree that you should leave a review just stating the facts. Straight, gay or purple, I would like to know if someone I’m hiring to do a legal role is lying about the legalities of that job. Extremely dishonest business practice.

    I actually thought that officiants can’t refuse to do same-sex marriages in Canada (or maybe just certain provinces)? Obviously, you wouldn’t want to be married by someone holding those views, but it might be something to escalate to your province’s omsbudsman or human rights office.
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  • Brittany
    British Columbia
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    That's really disappointing that people have to resort to lying, as if you wouldn't know immediately there's nothing different about the legality of your ceremony versus a man/woman...

    You are definitely not being too sensitive. The disrespectful part isn't them not having anyone willing to do the ceremony, it's lying to you. You could probably even understand being told "we don't have anyone comfortable in performing same sex marriages", even though it would be a little disappointing, than a bold faced lie.

    Best of luck with your future vendors! Hopefully there's much more good interactions than bad in the future.

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  • Lisa
    Expert August 2019 Alberta
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    I’d be inclined to leave a review and just state the facts as they are. I’d i were in a similar position, I’d want to know if a vendor was either completely ignorant to the rules and laws or just outright lying rather that expressing unjustified concern.

    Just my $0.02 Smiley smile
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