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Beginner July 2022 Quebec

Venue Contract / covid Fears

Meg, on January 26, 2021 at 00:03 Posted in Plan a wedding 1 6
Hi everyone! We recently got a contract from our venue which states our minimum spend as we expected, as follows:


(minimum # of guests) x (minimum cost per plate)
I am just worried because my contract states that a cancellation for any reason, we would still owe the hall 50% of the minimum spend .... which obviously worries me with COVID regulations being so unpredictable. I am worried what if the COVID regulations make the wedding seem so "lame" and restricted that people don't want to show up? If we don't get close enough to the minimum number of guests for me it seems ridiculous to go through with giving the hall the minimum spend (the hall's minimum guest count is 225 so you can imagine that the minimum spend is quite expensive..). But it also would make me mad to still owe the hall 50% of the minimum spend if we decide to cancel or if we have to cancel.
As I'm typing this I totally understand that it's a double-edged sword and either way it seems like the hall is going to get a good chunk of my money, I was just wondering how you guys went into it / opinions on if it seems unreasonable on the venue's part / negotiations / etc. Luckily the deposit is not large so I am comfortable reserving the date, just all the what-ifs after are making me nervous.
Anyways I know we will have to try negotiating something, I was just wondering how it's going for the other brides just beginning to sign contracts, or how it went for the brides that had to post pone or cancel due to COVID ?

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Latest activity by Candace, on January 29, 2021 at 15:53
  • Candace
    Newbie June 2021 Ontario
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    Not sure if this helps but we made amendments and added clauses before signing any of our contracts. I found most of our venues agreed to the terms we added as we were being fair for both parties given the circumstances. I noticed a lot of vendors did not have updated covid-contracts either. When I spoke to most vendors they vocally agreed to our terms and then I would make noted adjustments to the contracts and give it back to them to update for us to sign. It is definitely work but I haven't had any issues with any of my requested terms from our chosen vendors.

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  • Hank
    Featured September 2021 Ontario
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    I'm not a lawyer and I don't know the exact details of your contract. But have you already paid the full amount on your contract? I would certainly hope that your venue has stopped the payment schedule with all this uncertainty going on.

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  • Vinod
    Top August 2017 Ontario
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    The venue contract does seem trickery in the way of wording of Covid and minimum guest count. No count above 25 to 50 is allowed depending on the province/territory at this time. The venue can't enforce for such a large number if it was in the clear. It would be wise to know if other venues are offering the same refun cancellation policy. The contract doesn't state the Covid refund policy, then I would consider other venues. I too would be concerned to lose the deposit if you were to cancel on your end. The money should be refunded if they cancel on you which should be stated. Negotiate if you need to for getting a better understanding of their terms.

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    Curious August 2021 Ontario
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    Hi Hank, what if the venue says they won't return your money - only hold it as credit for another event? We planned a 2020 wedding pre-pandemic, postponed to June 2021 and worried about being forced to overpay for people we cannot have if restrictions still apply (which they likely will Smiley sad ).
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  • Geneviève
    VIP September 2020 Ontario
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    I’d double check the wording on your contract. There are laws that state when a venue can keep a deposit. If the venue cancels for their own reasons, they usually can’t keep their deposit. Also feel free to negotiate! If you don’t agree with a clause, tell the venue and negotiate the wording. If they’re not willing to budge at all, it gives you an idea of how they might be to deal with down the line.
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  • Hank
    Featured September 2021 Ontario
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    Is there a force majeure clause in there that details what happens if a cancellation needs to happen as a result of something outside of your and your venue's control? Usually it will say that any cancellation due to circumstances outside of either party's control will null the obligations of both parties, and therefore no service will need to be performed and all monies paid will be refunded. Pandemics and other government orders fall under such clauses.

    No one can enforce terms of a contract that are contradictory to the law. If the Quebec government only allows for 50 people to gather and eat, your venue can't force you to bring 225 people as it would be against the law nor can they make you pay for an additional 175 people without giving something back in return.

    But let's say the government allows 225 to gather with certain restrictions: you have to wear masks while not eating and you're not allowed to dance. If you choose to cancel because you absolutely want dancing and have no masks at your wedding, you'd be on the hook since there's nothing that prevents the venue from fulfilling their terms.

    You should re-read the contract to make sure you fully understand it and if not, ask the venue for clarification.

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