Saadiya
Beginner July 2020 Ontario

Stage 3 announced!

Saadiya, on July 9, 2021 at 12:10 Posted in Ontario 0 24
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For those getting married this month or next month, stage 3 numbers have been announced.


They’ve also finally given guidelines on 4 saying that all restrictions will be lifted. We can expect to go into this sometime by mid August (hopefully)
What are your plans now? When will you be contacting your venue?

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Latest activity by Hank, on July 13, 2021 at 11:27
  • Hank
    Featured September 2021 Ontario
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    I was basing it off her venue, which can hold 120 in the largest room. 25% of 120 means 30 people.

    As for masking, the law specifically states you're only permitted to remove a mask or face covering temporarily to consume food or drink (or other health and safety needs). The law even specifies that business operators have an obligation to ensure patrons keep them on indoors, if they can't physically distance outdoors, when dancing (indoor or outdoor), and whenever patrons are lining up for anything indoors.

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  • M
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    I'm not sure that that's the correct information. If you are having your wedding at a staffed venue (like a hall) and it can hold 400 people, you can most certainly have more than 30 people attend. You would be able to have 100 people attend with dancing and 200 without dancing (inside). As they have released, a staffed venue with dancing can have 25% capacity attend inside and 75% capacity attend outside and in a staffed venue without dancing, you can have a capacity of 50% inside and 75% outside.

    Private properties have been limited to 25 people inside and 100 people outside.

    I believe in all cases, local heath regulations apply such as masks and social distancing but I have not seen specifics as to when people are allowed to take their masks off and when they have to keep them on - the wedding industry is waiting on further clarification.

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  • Hank
    Featured September 2021 Ontario
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    What is your guest count? Based on your venue, if you want to have a dance party, you can't have more than 30 people regardless of what your venue is classified as. So if your guest count is more than 30, that's why the venue is not allowing dancing.

    And businesses can be heavily fined if they're not enforcing safety protocols like masking so you can't really blame them for that.

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  • N
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    Thank you!

    Okay so essentially it is up to my vendor to consider themselves a "food and drink establishment" versus a wedding venue in order to permit dancing?

    Meanwhile they are very willing to accept the rules enforcing mask wearing and not standing with drink, lol.

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  • Hank
    Featured September 2021 Ontario
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    Https://www.ontario.ca/laws/regulation/r21520

    Food or drink establishments where dance facilities are provided, including nightclubs, restoclubs and other similar establishments, may open if they comply with the following conditions during any time when patrons are permitted to make use of the dance facilities:

    1. In the case of an indoor establishment, the total number of members of the public permitted to be in the establishment at any one time must be limited to the number that can maintain a physical distance of at least two metres from every other person in the establishment and in any event may not exceed 25 per cent capacity, as determined in accordance with subsection 3 (4) of Schedule 1, or 250 persons, whichever is less.

    2. In the case of an outdoor establishment, the total number of members of the public permitted to be at the establishment at any one time may not exceed 75 per cent capacity, as determined in accordance with subsection 3 (2) of Schedule 1, or 5,000 persons, whichever is less.

    As for drinking and standing, the venue operator has a duty to enforce mask wearing while on the dance floor (regardless if you're indoor or outdoor), lining up for anything, and anytime you're indoors or in spaces where you can't physically distance for 2 meters per person. Based on that, you can imagine how a venue operator would not want their guests running around with a drink in hand since they can't stay masked.

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  • N
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    Hi!

    Does anyone know where it explicitly states that dancing is permitted?

    Also does anyone know where it states that patrons are not allowed to stand with their drinks? Our venue seems to be stuck in the 2020 Covid Era so we are trying to prove to them that these rules have changed.

    TIA!

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  • Saadiya
    Beginner July 2020 Ontario
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    Here check this out Stage 3 announced! 1

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  • Saadiya
    Beginner July 2020 Ontario
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    No restrictions to number of people per table ! Tables just have to be spaced apart
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  • Saadiya
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    Saadiya ·
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    Hey! I found it on Reddit and it was pulled directly from the Ontario website. Do you still require it I can try finding it for you? They provided more clarity yesterday afternoon as well and it’s all over Instagram on the wedding industry pages
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  • Hank
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    The link to Step 3's reopening guidelines is here.

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  • Tunisha
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    I’m keeping the same plans in hopes of all being well in October. My fiancé is very optimistic in the Covid plans being lifted. We only have 64-70 people.
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  • Candace
    Newbie September 2021 Ontario
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    So Im confused, how many people can attend an indoor wedding reception in a ballroom in stage 3?
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  • Caroline
    Newbie August 2021 Ontario
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    Hi!! Can you please share where you got that screenshot with the specific call out w\that receptions at actual venues follow those rules? I've been needing clarity on that for one of my vendors!

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  • Hank
    Featured September 2021 Ontario
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    So while everyone is loving the updated gathering restrictions number, here are a few important takeaways:

    -Masks must still be worn at all times indoors except when you are eating or drinking

    -Buffets are allowed but no specifics on what that means ie self serve vs a server scoop you the food

    -Dancing is allowed in food or drink establishments where dance facilities are provided, including nightclubs, restoclubs and other similar establishments but you must wear a mask

    -Tables must still be two meters apart or separated by plexiglass

    -There is no longer any limit on the number of people per table

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  • Hank
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    Only if the establishment has a "dancing facility" and max of 250 people or 25% capacity, whichever is less. You have to dance with a mask on.

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  • Janine
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    Nevermind, found this! Great news!

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  • Janine
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    Does anyone know if they are permitting dancing yet?
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  • ASH
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    This is exciting news, happy it didn't take too long to receive Step 3 guidance from the Step 2 announcement.

    Anyone have any idea on # of people seated per table or if there are any restriction pertaining to it?

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  • Saadiya
    Beginner July 2020 Ontario
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    Yeah exactly!


    Stage 3 announced! 2

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  • Megan
    Frequent user July 2023 Ontario
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    I could be reading it wrong but I think for receptions it would be 50% or 1000 people whichever is less?

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  • Saadiya
    Beginner July 2020 Ontario
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    Lol okay so apparently they’ve now given a distinction to that social gathering and reception rule


    If the reception will be held at a legitimate establishment then you follow the sector specific rules!!
    That’s great news Smiley laugh
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  • Megan
    Frequent user July 2023 Ontario
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    I've heard that too! It's so confusing lol. I'm happy for all the brides and grooms on here though! I'm not until 2023 so I've been hoping to have an engagement party soon so I've been following closely as well!

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  • Saadiya
    Beginner July 2020 Ontario
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    Yep!!


    I find it weird nightclubs can go ahead with 250 indoors but receptions can have 50? lol
    Nevertheless, I have been hearing that a lot of venues have had enough and are operating as though they are a restaurant.
    Before today’s announcements, my outdoor venue already said they were operating under outdoor dining rule and already had a few weddings done that way
    Now they should have no limit except for how many tables they can fit Smiley smile
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  • Megan
    Frequent user July 2023 Ontario
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    You beat me to it! Here's the restrictions I was able to find Smiley smile

    Step 3 allows for, but isn't limited to:

    • Outdoor social gatherings and organized public events with up to 100 people with limited exceptions;
    • Indoor social gatherings and organized public events with up to 25 people;
    • Indoor religious services, rites or ceremonies, including wedding services and funeral services permitted with physical distancing;
    • Indoor dining permitted with no limits on the number of patrons per table with physical distancing and other restrictions still in effect;
    • Indoor sports and recreational fitness facilities to open subject to a maximum 50 per cent capacity of the indoor space. Capacity for indoor spectators is 50 per cent of the usual seating capacity or 1,000 people, whichever is less. Capacity for outdoor spectators is 75 per cent of the usual seating capacity or 15,000 people, whichever is less;
    • Indoor meeting and event spaces permitted to operate with physical distancing and other restrictions still in effect and capacity limited to not exceed 50 per cent capacity or 1,000 people, (whichever is less);
    • Essential and non-essential retail with with capacity limited to the number of people that can maintain a physical distance of two metres;
    • Personal care services, including services requiring the removal of a face covering, with capacity limited to the number of people that can maintain a physical distance of two metres;
    • Museums, galleries, historic sites, aquariums, zoos, landmarks, botanical gardens, science centres, casinos/bingo halls, amusement parks, fairs and rural exhibitions, festivals, with capacity limited to not exceed 50 per cent capacity indoors and 75 per cent capacity outdoors;
    • Concert venues, cinemas, and theatres permitted to operate at:
      • up to 50 per cent capacity indoors or a maximum limit of 1,000 people for seated events (whichever is less)
      • up to 75 per cent capacity outdoors or a maximum limit of 5,000 people for unseated events (whichever is less); and up to 75 per cent capacity outdoors or a maximum of 15,000 people for events with fixed seating (whichever is less).
    • Real estate open houses with capacity limited to the number of people that can maintain a physical distance of two metres; and
    • Indoor food or drink establishments where dance facilities are provided, including nightclubs and restobars, permitted up to 25 per cent capacity or up to a maximum limit of 250 people (whichever is less).
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